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Re: I want to study Russian classic races of history. Отправлено: 2013/1/24 5:47
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USSR winner,

In 1932 is Balagur (RUS) 19xx. (sire Brimston).

Balakuchij (UKR) 1925 is not Balagur ?

Balakuchij (UKR) 1925 ch M
Brimston (RUS) 1915 - Meduza (RUS) 1918
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Re: I want to study Russian classic races of history. Отправлено: 2013/1/23 14:39
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Thanks Archer,

Do you know other race winner,

International Priz Bratyslawy
What is pedigree of Abendsang, 1957 winner
and Aeroport, 1963 winner ?

International Priz Budapeszt
What is pedigree of 1969 winner or no race ?

International Priz Ulan Bator
What is pedigree of Indygo, 1976 winner and Refleks, 1977 winner ?

International Priz Peking
What is pedigree of Morvan, 1953 winner and Gel Boy, 1962 winner ?

International Priz Bukareszt
What is pedigree of Malaga, 1951 winner ?

International Priz Sofii (Colt 2yo)
What is pedigree of Imbolygo, 1963 winner and Bartolo, 1956 winner ?

International Priz Berlin (Filly 2yo)
What is pedigree of Pusa, 1951 winner and Mangalia, 1952 winner ?

International Priz Belgrade
What is pedigree of Gronostaj, 1974 winner and Taxus, 1973 winner ?
What is winner 1970?

International Pris Otwarcia
What is pedigree of Conga, 1951 winner and Mariuta, 1952 winner ?

International Priz Praha
What is pedigree of Broadway, 1951 winner, Omat, 1952 winner, and Fruntas, 1953 winner ?
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Re: I want to study Russian classic races of history. Отправлено: 2013/1/23 12:22
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I have new question.

Central Europe Puchar Krajow Socjalistycznych,

Please write winners,

International Pris Bukareszt of 1971
International Priz Belgrade of 1970,1971
International Priz Berlin of 1971
International Priz Warzsawa of 1971
International Priz Sofii of 1971
International Priz Ulan Bator of 1971
and
International Priz Budapeszt of 1971
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Re: I want to study Russian classic races of history. Отправлено: 2013/1/23 12:12
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Thanks qwe,

Perhaps, I think so.
2yo race, 3yo race, and 4yo up, these are 3 races Russian triple crown.

I see.

Gosudaryni Imperatricy and Gagarinskij are no information....

These 2 races are difficult information, I do not have information too.

best regards,

kanonpapa

Thank you.
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Re: I want to study Russian classic races of history. Отправлено: 2013/1/23 10:56
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Second question,

I make Gosudaryni Imperatricy,
Is this race holding in Moscow, all dirt 2400meter, and to be continued St.Leger or not continued ?

1917 Salome (GEO) 1914 br F
Saltpetre (GBR) 1900 Tiny Queen (FRA) 1906

1916 ??

1915 Grey Boy (RUS) 1912 ch M
Gouvernant (FRA) 1901 Epsom Saint (GBR) 1905

1914 Bob (RUS) 1911 b M
Palmiste (FRA) 1894 Belle Dame (RUS) 1903

1913 Demosthen (FRA) 1910 b M
Darley Dale (GBR) 1901 Mosquee (FRA) 1903

1912 Grymza (RUS) 1909 ch M
Espoir (HUN) 1889 Gaya (RUS) 1902

1911 Floreal (RUS) 1908 ch M
Florizel (GBR) 1891 Miss Churchill (POL) 1901

1910 Kartacz (HUN) 1907 b M
Sac-A-Papier (GBR) 1896 Namouna (GBR) 1897

1909 Sokrat (RUS) 1906 b M
Saphir (GER) 1894 Rose Pompon (HUN) 1894

1908 Rakieta I (RUS) 1905 b F
Collar (GBR) 1895 Rhea Sylvia (GBR) 1892

1907 Uzda (POL) 1904 br M
Ruler (POL) 1884 Helim (FRA) 1897

1906 Hammurabi (RUS) 1903 b M
Galtee More (IRE) 1894 Galciona (RUS) 1896

1905 Galilej (RUS) 1902 br M
Galtee More (IRE) 1894 Lassuk (AUT/HUN) 1890

1904 Karolyi (RUS) 1901 ch M
Galtee More (IRE) 1894 Lassuk (AUT/HUN) 1890

1903 Irish Lad (RUS) 1900 b M
Galtee More (IRE) 1894 Lassuk (AUT/HUN) 1890

1902 Sirdar (POL) 1899 b M
Reverend (FRA) 1888 Sundew (GBR) 1886

1901 Madame Ferrari (POL) 1898 b F
Chambery (POL) 1892 Pani Chorazyna (POL) 1891

1900 Smike (POL) 1897 b M
Ruler (POL) 1884 Cornaline (GBR) 1880

1899 Sac-A-Papier (GBR) 1896 b M
Salisbury (GBR) 1884 First Flight (GBR) 1889

1898 Tromanto (RUS) 1895 ch M
Faugh-A-Ballagh (RUS) 1880 Nandu (GBR) 1889

1897 Miecznik (POL) 1894 b M
Kisber Ocscse (HUN) 1877 Mira (HUN) 1884

1896 Matador (POL) 1893 ch M
Galaor (FRA) 1885 Mira (HUN) 1884

1895 Mortimer (RUS) 1892 b M
Ruler (POL) 1884 Image (FRA) 1879

1894 Granit (RUS) 1891 ch M
Roehampton (GBR) 1873 Gertruda (RUS) 1878

1893 Venera (RUS) 1890 b F
Viennois (FRA) 1883 Kazan (RUS) 1873

1892 Jarema Wisniowiecki (RUS) 1889 ch M
Gunnersbury (GBR) 1876 Switezianka (GER) 1870

1891 Murza (---) 1888 b M
Elborus (RUS) 1874 Markisa (RUS) 1879

1890 Tormentor (POL) 1887 b M
Zutzen (GER) 1874 Image (FRA) 1879

1889 Boyard (---) 1886 ch M
Boiard (FRA) 1870 Era (RUS) 1870

1888 Gayarre (RUS) 1885 ch M
Gunnersbury (GBR) 1876 Lady Albion (RUS) 1878

1887 Ruler (POL) 1884 dkb/br M
Isonomy (GBR) 1875 Reate (GBR) 1878

1886 Baronet (POL) 1883 dkb/br M
Highlander (GER) 1864 Miss Dare (---) 1877

1885 Mirabeau (---) 1882 ch M
Tresor (FRA) 1871 Milosc (RUS) 1876

1884 Margarita (POL) 1881 b F
Grimston (GBR) 1860 Martha (GER) 1874

1883 Telefon (---) 1880 br M
Tresor (FRA) 1871 Trompette (RUS) 1862

1882 Hamlet (RUS) 1879 br M
Albion (RUS) 1869 Georgina (RUS) 1867

1881 Wampir (POL) 1878 bl M
Young Eclipse (GER) 1869 Stockhausen (GBR) 1863

1880 Darley (---) 1877 ch M
Vadim (RUS) 1867 Janeta (RUS) 1866

1879 Guizot (---) 1876 gr M
Wieszczun (POL) 1853 Hydromel (GBR) 1855

1878 Dadzal (RUS) 1875 ch M
Deze (RUS) 1868 Janeta (RUS) 1866

1877 Karawan (---) 1874 b M
Caractacus (GBR) 1859 Reforma (RUS) 1866

1876 Larisa (RUS) 1873 br F
Lazy Fellow (RUS) 1866 Redeza (RUS) 1862

1875 Miss Godolphin (GER) 1872 b F
Buccaneer (GBR) 1857 Sunbeam (GBR) 1859

1874 Lanercost (---) 1871 ch M
Van Dyck (RUS) 1858 Kama (RUS) 1853

1873 Secrete (---) 1870 bl M
Diophantus (GBR) 1858 Mystery (GBR) 1866

1872 Gromoboj (RUS) 1869 br M
Molodoj Bard (RUS) 1854 Gipsy (GBR) 1856

1871 Ellada (---) 1868 b F
El Hakim (GBR) 1854 Vigion (RUS) 1856

1870 Vadim (RUS) 1867 b M
Van Dyck (RUS) 1858 Szaszka (RUS) 1850

1869 Kula (GER) 1866 b F
Flatterer (GBR) 1852 Edgeworth Bess (---) 1860

1868 Somnambula (POL) 1865 b F
Apropos (---) 1855 Bystrzitsa (POL) 18xx

If My question is mistake, then Please write answer.
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Re: I want to study Russian classic races of history. Отправлено: 2013/1/23 2:18
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I make Gagarinskij winner list,
Is this race only 3 year old ?

1915 Bursa (POL) 1912 b F
San Thiago (RUS) 1899 Brasque (POL) 1907

1914 Norwegja (RUS) 1911 b F
No Rule (RUS) 1899 Eszalon (RUS) 1905

1913 Luneville (FRA) 1910 b M
Henry of Navarre (USA) 1891 La Bien Venue (GBR) 1906

1912 Erna (RUS) 1909 ch F
Masodik (HUN) 1897 Airy (RUS) 1903

1911 Brave Maid (RUS) 1908 b F
Matchbox (GBR) 1891 Brangena (RUS) 1903

1910 Antrepriza (RUS) 1907 F
Joubert II (RUS) 1900 A Present (RUS) 1895

1909 Zapolska (RUS) 1906 b F
Ritka (AUT) 1897 Zorza (RUS) 1899

1908 Paleta (POL) 1905 b F
Duke Of Parma (FRA) 1896 Mme. De Lamballe (POL) 1898

1907 Edith (POL) 1904 ch F
Espoir (HUN) 1889 Semiramis (POL) 1895

1906 ????

1905 Jaworyna (POL) 1902 b F
Matchbox (GBR) 1891 Thais (HUN) 1894

1904 Kataryniarzowna (POL) 1901 br F
Ruler (POL) 1884 Ecrevisse (FRA) 1890

1903 Cheronea (POL) 1900 b F
Magus (HUN) 1891 Ortrude (FRA) 1908

1902 Violanta (RUS) 1899 b F
Althorp (GBR) 1882 Vis-A-Vis (AUT/HUH) 1892

1901 Madame Ferrari (POL) 1898 b F
Chambery (POL) 1892 Pani Chorazyna (POL) 1891

1900 Rosa Raguza (RUS) 1897 ch M
Orion (GBR) 1888 Rebel Rose (GBR) 1888

1899 Nemezyda (RUS) 1896 ch F
Le Nord (FRA) 1887 Kozyrnaja Dwojka (RUS) 1886

1898 Fausse Perle (RUS) 1895 b F
Primas (HUN) 1889 Hydra (HUH) 1887

1897 Kalifornja (RUS) 1894 ch F
Kordjan (POL) 1877 Kalkuta (RUS) 1880

1896 Epopea (RUS) 1893 ch F
Dear Boy (RUS) 1877 Eneida (RUS) 1878

1895 La Fleche (RUS) 1892 ch F
Braconnier (FRA) 1873 Duchesse (FRA) 1875

1894 Aubergine (FRA) 1891 b F
Reluisant (FRA) 1882 Asperge (FRA) 1883

1893 Hetera (RUS) 1890 b F
Kordjan (POL) 1877 Hanna (RUS) 1883

1892 Rozi Nini (AUT) 1889 b F
Remeny (AUT) 1873 Sofie (AUT) 1882

1891 My Rose (RUS) 1888 bl F
Marshall Scott (GBR) 1876 Parthenia (GBR) 1875

1890 Kamelja (RUS) 1887 b F
Consul (FRA) 1866 Cotillon (RUS) 1876

last year is 2200meter, but dirt or turf, I do not know.

I heard by Russian horseman, Now is no St.Peterburg racecourse.
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Re: I want to study Russian classic races of history. Отправлено: 2013/1/22 20:08
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PS

I read Thoughbred book, In Russia, old old year is holding by St. Petersburg?
This race name is Gagarinskij, When was this race untill since year?
and St.Petersburg is on Turf or Dirt ?
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Re: I want to study Russian classic races of history. Отправлено: 2013/1/22 20:04
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Dear qwe,

I can study Russian races, very interesting.

So, St.Leger is English Triple crown is a little difficult, In Russia.

Triple Crown is best important Russia, Kalining, Derby, and USSR or
Letni Priz, Derby, and Budionny Memorial is no important Triple Crown in Russia?

I think.

by the way, St.Leger is no race in 1961,2009, 2010, 2011?
1961 is dirt 2400m?
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Re: I want to study Russian classic races of history. Отправлено: 2013/1/22 19:07
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Dear qwe,

Many information Thanks!

I am glad to see you.

I have a question.

Mister? Doctor? K.P.Bochkarev is Stud book Manager or Famous horseman?
I listen to many Russian horseman, said name.
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Re: I want to study Russian classic races of history. Отправлено: 2013/1/22 17:35
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Thanks qwe,

I think very short year, from born 1930 to born 1933.
between only 3 years .

I make Russian St.Leger winner list,

2012 Bungur River (IRE) 2009 b F
Barathea (IRE) 1990 Ultra Finesse (USA) 1992

2011-2009 No race

2008 Dove Spring (USA) 2005 ch M
Smart Strike (CAN) 1992 Duck Trap (USA) 1993

2007 Incandescent Star (USA) 2004 b M
Cozzene (USA) 1980 Star Queen (USA) 1997

2006 Aksessuar (RUS) 2003 dkb/br M
Corvinius (GER) 1995 Arizona (RUS) 1991

2005 Petr Veliky (GBR) 2002 b M
Kayf Tara (GBR) 1994 Bright Future (FRA) 1993

2004 Zabolon (RUS) 2001 F
Balliol Boy (GBR) 1992 Zastava (RUS) 1989

2003 Theralith (GER) 2000 ch M
Secret`n Classy (CAN) 1987 Trilby (GER) 1979

2002 Favn (RUS) 1999 ch M
Fabiy (RUS) 1986" Veda (RUS) 1994

2001 Ipel (RUS) 1998 M
Prince Hatim (IRE) 1989 Isindiya (RUS) 1982

2000 Berd (RUS) 1997 M
Efes (RUS) 1990 Begonia (RUS) 1978

1999 Belveder (RUS) 1996 M
Al Batal (USA) 1987 Gracia (RUS) 1980

1998 Masshtab (RUS) 1995 b M
Stimul (RUS) 1986 Magnoliya (RUS) 1986

1997 Talant (RUS) 1994 dkb/br M
Avat (RUS) 1977 Agra (RUS) 1987

1996 Khalif (RUS) 1993 b M
Leo Castelli (USA) 1984 Her Assets (USA) 1988

1995 Radiola (RUS) 1992 b F
Leo Castelli (USA) 1984 Radena (RUS) 1984

1994 Gul (RUS) 1991 b M
Leo Castelli (USA) 1984 Gapriya (RUS) 1976

1993 Farkop (RUS) 1990 b M
Flagman (RUS) 1983 Albaniya (RUS) 1985

1992 Glavk (RUS) 1989 b M
Whistead (GBR) 1975 Galiya (RUS) 1977

1991 Gassan (UKR) 1988 b M
Suzdal (RUS) 1974 Gercegovina (UKR) 1969

1990 Film (RUS) 1987 dkb/br M
Montcontour (FRA) 1974 Fema (RUS) 1976

1989 Saigon (RUS) 1986 ch M
Gazolin II (RUS) 1974 Sarsa (RUS) 1977

1988 Gerbariy (RUS) 1985 b M
Boprit (RUS) 1978 Galkana (RUS) 1977

1987 Gabion (RUS) 1984 dkb/br M
Aden (RUS) 1975 Gana (RUS) 1966

1986 Erit (RUS) 1983 bl M
Raut (RUS) 1976 Elda (RUS) 1976

1985 Zafar (RUS) 1982 M
Funduk (RUS) 1969 Zaponka (RUS) 1972

1984 Graf (RUS) 1981 b M
Gazolin II (RUS) 1974 Formatsiya (UKR) 1968

1983 Fatan (RUS) 1980 ch M
Perekop (RUS) 1969 Fonogramma (RUS) 1975

1982 Gallon (RUS) 1979 M
Langet (RUS) 1966 Gvatemala (RUS) 1973

1981 Ruif (RUS) 1978 b M
Effekt (RUS) 1959 Rubrika (RUS) 1966

1980 Snegomet (RUS) 1977 b M
Gerpegezh (RUS) 1967 Sangama (RUS) 1970

1979 Elda (RUS) 1976 b F
Anilin (RUS) 1961 Elza (RUS) 1968

1978 Gvalt (RUS) 1975 ch M
Anilin (RUS) 1961 Garantija (RUS) 1961

1977 Bukvar (UKR) 1974 ch M
Rigoletto (RUS) 1968 Badora (UKR) 1964

1976 Astor (RUS) 1973 blk/br M
Prognoz (RUS) 1968 Akhtyrka (RUS) 1965

1975 Lesogor (UKR) 1972 M
Gudzon (UKR) 1960 Lukretsiya (UKR) 1961

1974 Sudzha (RUS) 1971 b F
Gambrinus (RUS) 1957 Sena (RUS) 1964

1973 Galego (RUS) 1970 ch M
Gay Warrior II (IRE) 1959 Gambiya II (RUS) 1965

1972 Gerold (RUS) 1969 b M
Derzkiy (RUS) 1954 Gwinea (RUS) 1960

1971 Belogorsk (RUS) 1968 ch M
Gay Warrior II (IRE) 1959 Bagira (RUS) 1963

1970 Altaisk (RUS) 1967 ch M
Element (RUS) 1952 Aktinia (RUS) 1961

1969 Langet (RUS) 1966 ch M
Gay Warrior II (IRE) 1959 Lucette (RUS) 1942

1968 Zabor (RUS) 1965 b M
Balto (FRA) 1958 Zaria (RUS) 1955

1967 Bred (RUS) 1964 M
Duglas (GER) 1944 Bogema (RUS) 1955

1966 Sardar (RUS) 1963 M
Razgar (RUS) 1955 "Signalizatziya (RUS) 1957"

1965 Anshlag (RUS) 1962 b M
Steinadler (GER) 1952 Armatura (RUS) 1953

1964 Murmansk (RUS) 1961 ch M
Raufbold (GER) 1940 Meta (RUS) 1955

1963 Gudzon (RUS) 1960 b M
Derzkiy (UKR) 1954 Gissa (UKR) 1952

1962 Gay (RUS) 1959 M
Agregat (HUN) 1943 Gera III (RUS) 1948

1961 No race

1960 Zabeg (RUS) 1957 b M
Baltic Baron (HUN) 1938 Zerkalnaya (RUS) 1950

1959 Saksaul (RUS) 1956 ?
Baygist (RUS) 1940 Unknown Mare

1958 Likhaya (UKR) 1955 b F
Khrustal (UKR) ex Covin (FRA) 1944" Leta (UKR) 1945

1957 Zefir (---) 1954 b M
Zig Zag (POL) 1939 Feentochter (GER) 1943

1956 Rezolyutsiya (UKR) 1953 gr F
Ring (RUS) 1937 Cizalpina (GER) 1944

1955 Akzia I (RUS) 1952 F
"Amur ex Agami (HUN) 1943" Idilliya (RUS) 19xx

1954 Albumin (RUS) 1951 dkb/br M
"Amur ex Agami (HUN) 1943" Beglyanka (RUS) 1945

1953 Gilza (RUS) 1950 ch F
Gudzon (RUS) 1940 Ityuka (HUN) 1942

1952 Strateg (RUS) 1949 ch M
Sektor II (RUS) 1934 Gastrolersha (RUS) 1943

1951 Marsel (RUS) 1948 ch M
Cyclonic (GBR) 1925 Metagramma (RUS) 1938

1950 Gerkules II (RUS) 1947 b M
Sektor II (RUS) 1934 Gres (RUS) 1936

1949 Grog II (RUS) 1946 b M
Granit II (RUS) 1930 Gipoteza (RUS) 1936

1948 Eleron (GER) 1945 br M
Ellerich (GER) 1937 Lundenburg (GER) 1939

1947 Eskadra (GER) 1944 ch F
Etalon Or (FRA) 1936 Doris (GER) 1938

1946 Amur (HUN) 1943 b M
Aditi (GER) 1922 Mindenem (HUN) 1927

1945 Babbit (UKR) 1940 ch M
Bagdadi (GEO) 1933 Bezvirnitza (UKR) 1934

1944 Bug (RUS) 1940 ch M
Granit II (RUS) 1930 Bosniya (RUS) 1929

1943-1941 No race

1940 Iprit (RUS) 1937 ch M
Inferno (HUN) 1925 Pustynia (RUS) 1931

1939 Ekspress (RUS) 193x M
Sirocco (GBR) 1915 Etoile (RUS) 1917

1938 Sektor II (RUS) 1934 ch M
Tagor (RUS) 1915 Spesivaya (RUS) 1925

1937 Sektor II (RUS) 1934 ch M
Tagor (RUS) 1915 Spesivaya (RUS) 1925

1936 Grab (RUS) 1933 ch M
Bezkarnyj (RUS) 1925 Gamza (RUS) 1921

1935 Solonchak (RUS) 1932 ch M
Cima de Conegliano (ITY) 1920 Sornett (RUS) 1917

1934 Galateya II (RUS) 1931 F
Tagor (RUS) 1915 Glorvina (RUS) 1914

1933 Polyus (RUS) 1930 b M
Sanitar (GBR) 1914 Potish (RUS) 1916

1932 Gitara (RUS) 1929 b F
Tagor (RUS) 1915 Glorvina (RUS) 1914

1931 Divina (RUS) 1928 b F
"Dzhiafar ex Jiafar (---) 1918" "Gortenzia ex Ginerva (RUS) 1918"

1930 Machtatel (RUS) 192x
Brancy (RUS) 1916 Machta (---) 19xx

1929 Goroskop (RUS) 1926 ch M
Satyr (RUS) 1915 "Gortenzia ex Ginerva (RUS) 1918"

1928 Temryuk (RUS) 1925 b M
Yunak (RUS) 1911 Tannu Ola (RUS) 1913

1927 No race

1926 Se Sher (---) 19xx
Saint Just (FRA) 1907 Shansonett (---) 19xx

before 1925 I do not know.....
1924
1923
1922
1921
1920
1919
1918
1917
1916
1915
1914
1913 Samourai (
1912 Grimza (
1911
1910
1909 Socrate (
1908 Raketa I (
1907
1906
1905 Prince Noir
1904 Karoun (
1903 Joubert II (
1902 Sirdar (POL) 1899 b M
Reverend (FRA) 1888 Sundew (GBR) 1886

1901
1900
1899
1898 Gridegne (
early?

What is mare of pedigree of 1959 winner Saksaul (RUS) 1956?

What is pedigree of Idilliya (RUS) 19xx of 1955 winner Akzia I (RUS) 1952?

What is born year of 1939 winner Ekspress (RUS) 193x?

What is pedigree and born year of Machta (---) 19xx, and 1930 winner Machtatel (RUS) 192x?

What is pedigree and born year of Shansonett (---) 19xx, and 1926 winner Se Sher (---) 19xx?

Russian St.Leger is from 1946 3 year old only?
When is 3 years old only race?

When is start Russian St.Leger and Race name change?

Please answer, sergey and qwe.
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